The Art of Radical Listening

What is radical listening? And how can it help improve all our relationships? My podcast guest, Robert Biswas-Diener has the answers! — What is radical listening, and why is it important in our relationships? Dr. Robert Biswas-Diener is the co-author of the soon-to-be published book, Radical Listening, The Art of True Connection. He’s a researcher, […]

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What is radical listening? And how can it help improve all our relationships? My podcast guest, Robert Biswas-Diener has the answers!

What is radical listening, and why is it important in our relationships? Dr. Robert Biswas-Diener is the co-author of the soon-to-be published book, Radical Listening, The Art of True Connection. He’s a researcher, author, and consultant. His previous books include The Upside of Your Dark Side (New York Times Bestseller, 2014), and the 2007 PROSE Award winner, Happiness. He has presented keynotes to Lululemon, Deloitte, Humana, AARP, The World Bank, and others. In 2024, Thinkers50 named him one of the “50 Most Influential Executive Coaches in the World.” He lives in Portland, Oregon, where he enjoys drawing and rock climbing.

In this episode:

  • How Radical Listening moves beyond traditional active listening techniques
  • What people trying to accomplish when they listen
  • How the 6 Core skills of Radical Listening enable us to better communicate with
  • others
  • How Internal and External listening skills complement each other
  • How we can effectively overcome those barriers to better approach our conversations

EP 651: Dr. Robert Biswas-Diener – The Art of Radical Listening

How does Radical Listening move beyond traditional active listening techniques? 

Radical listening is not shocking, it’s about extending listening beyond what we do in active listening. One of the things we think is most important is that listening is about accomplishing things.

What are people trying to accomplish when they listen?

They’re trying to figure out your intention: do you want to be validated or solve problems? Both parties are equal in the relationship. When the speaker is speaking, they’re making bids to entertain, connect, etc. Your job as the listener is to try to figure out what they want from you. Do they want empathy, support, or something else? We often miss what others want.

To learn what people want, we ask open questions to invite more information.There are better and worse questions. You want to ask questions that reveal something about the person – their feelings, or who they are. “What’s your take on that?”

How do the 6 Core skills of Radical Listening help us communicate better with others?

The overarching thing to do is listen with positive intent and to understand the other person better. The first three core skills are internal and the next three are external. 

The six skills are:

  1. Noticing 
  2. Quieting your inner chatter
  3. Acceptance: even without similarities, try to accept the other person’s point of view
  4. Acknowledging: say something about what you’ve noticed
  5. Questioning: asking open questions
  6. Interrupting: You can either take turns talking, or you can jump in with a ‘wow’ or ‘me too’, which are interruptions which return the focus on the speaker.

What are two obstacles to radical listening?

Comparing and competing are two obstacles to listening well. Competing would look like trying to outdo the other person. Comparing is a cousin to that. For example, you share that you studied abroad. And the other person says, “I studied abroad, too! Here’s what my experience was like.” It’s disconnecting.

How can we effectively overcome those barriers to better approach our conversations?

Any time you’re listening with intention, knowing what you want to accomplish, you’re more likely to hear the emotional tone, the themes of what you’re saying. And if you’re the speaker, be clear about what you’re looking for.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Begin with a positive intention – listen with respect and ask great questions to learn about someone, and also be willing to give of yourself. Think about the times you were deeply listened to – how did it feel? Go do that!

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Why Successful Women Struggle in Love

What are some of the top reasons why successful women tend to struggle in their love lives? Find out on the podcast with Emelia Nagy… — Why do successful women struggle in their romantic relationships? Emilia Nagy is a Sacred Union and relationship dynamics expert for spiritually awakened, high-achieving women ready to stop over-giving and […]

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What are some of the top reasons why successful women tend to struggle in their love lives? Find out on the podcast with Emelia Nagy…

Why do successful women struggle in their romantic relationships? Emilia Nagy is a Sacred Union and relationship dynamics expert for spiritually awakened, high-achieving women ready to stop over-giving and start being chosen. Drawing on a decade of coaching and 500+ dates worldwide, she blends spiritual depth with practical strategy to help women attract and sustain emotionally available, masculine partners.

In this episode:

  • Why Successful Women Struggle in Love
  • What is Masculine–Feminine Polarity 
  • How Healing Might Be Keeping You Single
  • How to Date for Marriage & Not for Entertainment

EP 700: Emilia Nagy – Why Successful Women Struggle in Love

Why do successful women often struggle in love?

When women are successful and ambitious, we measure men by those standards. Men and women are not the same – our brains differ in over six hundred different ways. Success and value at work are not the same as in lasting love. 

Women also often don’t ask for help due to cultural and social reasons. We’re taught that independence is key, and we’re not really vulnerable and interdependent.

How do you define masculine/feminine polarity, and why is it important in dating and relationships?

I call them spiritual energies, how we create in life and interact with the world. Masculine’s qualities are generative, focus, creative in a penetrative way. 

Feminine energy is allowing, receiving, taking in. We have that form spiritually inside if we’re a feminine being. Everyone has both energies. We choose to come into a female or male body to come into one energy more often. 

In dating and relationships, masculine and feminine show up in the energy flow that nourishes them both. If you’re a woman chasing men because no one is asking you out, you’ll have feminine energy men in your life. If you generate from a feminine energy place, you’ll attract more masculine energy men in your life.

Get the free gift on how to attract the right guy: https://course.emilianagy.com/pick-the-right-guy 

How does healing keep people single?

If you focus only on healing and not dating and relationship skills, you’ll stay stuck. You don’t have to be good enough for love, just willing to learn some information and implement it. Don’t wait to be perfectly healed to date.

What are some keys for people who want to date for marriage or long-term relationships?

  • Limit to healthy masculine energy brains that want a partner.
  • Filter narrowly for a specific type of man.
  • Wait for them to generate three messages that are reciprocal.
  • Give out your phone number. If he doesn’t use it, it’s a next.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Please don’t think something is wrong with you. This is information we’re not taught. Learn which men want what you want. Learn to discern and select. That makes dating so much so much easier.

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How She Went From Purity Culture to Polyamory

She went from purity culture to polyamory, and her husband stayed monogamous. Find out more on this episode of Last First Date Radio! — What happens when you go from purity culture to polyamory? My guest, Courtney Boyer, became polyamorous while her husband stayed monogamous. She is a relationship coach, writer, and speaker focused on […]

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She went from purity culture to polyamory, and her husband stayed monogamous. Find out more on this episode of Last First Date Radio!

What happens when you go from purity culture to polyamory? My guest, Courtney Boyer, became polyamorous while her husband stayed monogamous. She is a relationship coach, writer, and speaker focused on love, desire, and authenticity. A former therapist, she blends mental health and sex-therapy expertise to help women release shame, reclaim their voices, and build honest, autonomous relationships. She lives in Germany with her husband and three children, endlessly learning and writing her next chapter.

In this episode of Last First Date Radio:

  • The beliefs from purity culture that shape our understanding of relationships and sexuality
  • How Courtney realized polyamory felt aligned with who she now was
  • The impact of polyamory on motherhood
  • How to better understand mixed-orientation relationship structures

EP 693: Courtney Boyer – From Purity Culture to Polyamory (While Her Husband Stayed Monogamous)

What were the beliefs and expectations from purity culture that most shaped your early understanding of relationships and sexuality, and how did you start to recognize they didn’t fit you anymore?

Purity culture is a subset of the Evangelical church. Dating is to find a mate. Save yourself for marriage. There are a lot of teachings around modesty and no sex before marriage or you’ll go to hell. We’re taught that men are walking sex sticks. I remember hating my body because it was always causing problems. I needed to cover up my big breasts. 

The wakeup call was when I was researching for my first book, “Not Tonight, Honey: Why women actually don’t want sex and what we can do about it”, I was studying sexuality and why women feel so disconnected from their bodies. As I did more research, I became enraged at the patriarchy. My marriage was falling apart. My husband had PTSD and resisted change. 

What was the turning point when you realized non-monogamy, or specifically polyamory, felt aligned with who you are?

On our 17th wedding anniversary, our marriage was suffering, so I asked my husband if he wanted a threesome, and he said “what’s wrong with you, why would you ask that?”. So I then suggested non-monogamy, not polyamory. He said no. But after 6 months, he agreed, and I became non-monogamous and eventually polyamorous.

How did you and your husband navigate the emotional, practical, and ethical conversations around you becoming polyamorous while he chose to remain monogamous?

He was more liberal growing up than I was. It was an identity crisis for me, and I got help for myself and my marriage. It was a huge shift. My coach helped me come home to my body, because purity culture screwed me up. We then got a wonderful therapist who helped us communicate and understand our triggers.

How has this journey impacted your motherhood?

The first year, we kept it from them. I was still ashamed of who I was. I wanted to be “normal” and was afraid of what others would think. My oldest daughter thought I was having an affair and confronted me. I came out to her and the others, and they were so supportive. That’s been so healing for me. I’m more intentional as a mom.

How has this journey transformed the way you think about love, commitment, autonomy, and partnership, and what do you wish people understood about mixed-orientation relationship structures like yours?

I learned that you can create a beautiful life on your terms. I think of it like every person is a quartz crystal. When the light hits a quartz crystal, each facet is a different way of living and loving, which opens you up so much. It requires a lot of intention to live a lifestyle like this.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Believe that you are deserving of your last first date if that’s your heart’s desire.

Connect With Courtney

Social media and website: https://linktr.ee/coachcourtneyboyer 

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Deepen Your Connection: Secrets to Emotional and Physical Intimacy

How can we deepen our emotional and physical intimacy? Dr. Laura Berman shares important tips to achieve ‘sex magic’! — What are the secrets to emotional and physical intimacy? Dr. Berman has the answers in her newest book, Sex Magic. She’s a columnist for USA Today and a New York Times bestselling author who has […]

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How can we deepen our emotional and physical intimacy? Dr. Laura Berman shares important tips to achieve ‘sex magic’!

What are the secrets to emotional and physical intimacy? Dr. Berman has the answers in her newest book, Sex Magic. She’s a columnist for USA Today and a New York Times bestselling author who has written ten books. She currently hosts the popular love and sex advice podcast, The Language of Love. In addition to her regular appearances in daytime and news media, Dr. Berman was also the sex, love, and relationship expert on The Oprah Winfrey Show and has starred in four television series, including two on the OWN Network and one on Showtime.

In this episode of Last First Date Radio:

  • How to connect to your energetic body to master the pleasure available to you
  • How to confidently create deeper arousal and pleasure in yourself and your partner
  • How to build more sexual energy and desire within and between you and another
  • How to apply strategies for improving emotional and physical intimacy
  • How to remove the blocks of trauma and inhibition standing in the way of maximum pleasure
  • How to move pleasurable sensations throughout your body to achieve mind-blowing orgasms
  • How to use ancient techniques for sexual healing and manifesting your dreams

EP 664: Dr. Laura Berman – Deepen Your Connection: Secrets to Emotional and Physical Intimacy

Why did you write Sex Magic? 

I found wherever I went, people were asking me how do I spice things up and take things to the next level. Since the pandemic, all the stuff between couples came out and they were having an emotional reckoning. Plus, porn hub became free, which changed how people showed up in their sex life. People were looking for dopamine. When the spice starts to fade in a relationship, people look for more. Everything comes back to how you want to feel. People wanted intense excitement, so I too a deeper dive into that. 

In your book, you ask people to invite their physical self to their day. What do you mean by that, and how can people connect more deeply to their body’s energy?

Most of us are walking through the world disembodied. We’re always on our phones, and our minds are always busy. We are not aware of our bodies. An important part of sexuality is being attuned to your body. With arousal and orgasm, we have an awareness of our genitals. In sex magic, it’s our entire body. To connect to your body, ground with a quick meditation. Take a moment several times a day to tune into your senses. Put down your phone and employ all of your senses when you’re eating. 

How can couples build their erotic energy?

In the book, there are many exercises for singles and couples to build their erotic energy. As you start to date, you can teach your partner what you learned about building arousal and energy. Practice moving the sexual energy up through your body with your breath and kegel muscles. Using visualization helps, too. Pull up to each section of your body, and then drop it down.

How can people use sex as a powerful tool to manifest their dreams?

In the 1800s, people began to write about how to use sex to manifest. There’s science underneath this concept. Our bodies are pure vibrating energy. We hold an energetic frequency that is influenced by our relationship with ourselves and with others. Manifesting is moving your body’s energy into the one who has that energy already. You feel as if you already have that state of being. That supercharges your intention. All potentials exist. The highest energetic state is bliss and orgasm. If you want to create or manifest something, if you hold that during orgasm, you will be more likely to manifest that.

How can people remove the blocks of trauma and inhibition standing in the way of maximum pleasure?

It depends on the degree of trauma. Most of us need support to work through trauma. As a therapist, I do less talking with patients and more somatic/body work. It’s about how trauma is held in the body. If you disassociate during sex, somatic work is crucial. If you had to take care of your parents’ emotions, sexually you might be focused more on your partner’s needs than your own. That gets in the way of fully feeling pleasure. 

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Get super clear of the qualities you want and narrow it down to five. Get clear on the top three ways you want to feel when you wake up with that person you’re calling in, and live from that place. You’ll see a huge difference in how you manifest a partner.

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How to Transform Anxious Attachment into Secure Attachment

How do you transform anxious attachment into secure attachment? My guest, Trevor Hanson, has a 5-step framework that will help you heal. — Trevor Hanson is an internationally recognized coach and therapist specializing in transforming anxious attachment into secure relationships. After overcoming his own struggles, he left Tesla to pursue his passion for healing. With […]

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How do you transform anxious attachment into secure attachment? My guest, Trevor Hanson, has a 5-step framework that will help you heal.

Trevor Hanson is an internationally recognized coach and therapist specializing in transforming anxious attachment into secure relationships. After overcoming his own struggles, he left Tesla to pursue his passion for healing. With a master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy, he’s helped thousands globally through The Art of Healing and his signature method, “The Secure-Self Journey.”

In this episode:

  • The 4 essential elements to healing anxious attachment that most people miss.
  • The key mindset shift that most people overlook when trying to become secure.
  • A look at the structured plan Trevor uses to help clients develop a secure attachment.
  • A clear direction on how to start healing.
  • A powerful approach for creating self-trust, confidence, and safety within yourself.
  • How to take the next steps in your journey to healing anxious attachment.

EP 658: Trevor Hanson – Transforming Anxious Attachment into Secure Attachment

What is anxious attachment, and how does it impact our relationships?

There are two criteria to meet to be anxiously attached. You have fear of abandonment or fear of losing connection with others. You feel love is scarce and your ex is the only one for you.The second is a lack of self-esteem. It might not be conscious.

The TEMPO cycle is something we created to show how anxious attachment impacts our relationships 

T: Trigger. Creates a fear of abandonment. 

M: Meaning. What meaning do we make out of that trigger?

E: Emotion. What do you feel?

P: Protect. In a relationship, we begin to protect ourselves by shutting down or people-pleasing.

O: Outcome. What happens in the relationship and in you?

What are the 4 essential elements to healing anxious attachment that most people miss?

  1. Recognize the inner child part of you that created people pleasing or other rules that love has to be earned. Learn how to approach, nurture, and heal that part of you. 
  2. Healing looks like
    1. Be compassionate and kind to our inner child. 
    2. Listen to the so-called truths we believe about love 
    3. Validate. Be empathic to your inner child. 
    4. Truth – Create safety and trust for your inner child.

What are the next steps to healing anxious attachment?

If your partner triggers you and you feel that they don’t care about you, recognize that your inner child is triggered. If you tend to go to protection and start judging them and pointing out their bad behavior, your partner is now triggered and might get defensive and shut down.

If you can map out what’s going on, you can interrupt the cycle. Ask yourself what you want to do at every point of the trigger. If you recognize the meaning you’re making, you can change the meaning to something else. Maybe you need to communicate with them about what you need. Maybe you need to regulate your emotions. If you’re still upset, you can ask yourself what the outcome is that you are seeking. When you know your TEMPO cycle, you have power to interrupt it.  Learn how to be vulnerable and ask for what you want from your partner. This is about co-regulation.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

My last first date happened when I became secure. There’s a scene in the Barbie movie where Ken is jealous, and he feels scarcity. On the outside, he looks confident. But he was insecurely attached. When I healed and filled my own cup, I saw the women I dated less as rescuers and more as potential partners. Build your sense of security. 

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https://linktr.ee/trevorhanson

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How to Heal Your Relationship

If you want to know heal your relationship, listen to this episode. Dr. Rachel Glik shares helpful tips to strengthen any relationship. — Rachel Glik is a licensed professional counselor with 30+ years as a couples and individual therapist in private practice. Since 2014, she has been a regular feature on the Fox 2 AM […]

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If you want to know heal your relationship, listen to this episode. Dr. Rachel Glik shares helpful tips to strengthen any relationship.

Rachel Glik is a licensed professional counselor with 30+ years as a couples and individual therapist in private practice. Since 2014, she has been a regular feature on the Fox 2 AM show in St. Louis as a relationship and mental health expert. Her book, A SOULFUL MARRIAGE: Healing Your Relationship With Responsibility, Growth, Priority, and Purpose was published February 4, 2025.

In this episode of Last First Date Radio:

  • The essential four pillars that can positively transform and heal your relationship
  • The eight friendships that can influence a relationship 
  • How to diffuse tension in an emotional argument using the love seat listening method 
  • Why we should reframe conflict as an opportunity for growth
  • One step someone could take today to create a stronger relationship

EP 646 : Dr. Rachel Glik – How to Heal Your Relationship

What are the essential four pillars that can positively transform and heal your relationship? 

  1. Pillar one: Responsibility. We’re each responsible for our happiness and well-being. We have to know ourselves and individuate.
  2. Pillar two: Growth. Most people struggle with the growth pillar. That’s where conflict comes in. We use our friction to grow individually and then together.
  3. Pillar three: Priority. We make each other the most important person in our lives besides ourselves. Nothing will come between our connection.
  4. Pillar four: Purpose. If we don’t have a sense that we make the world better through our bond, it’s a challenge. Extend out of your collective.

What are the essential eight friendships that can influence a relationship? 

  1. Emotional friendship. Your partner is a confidant. You trust them. They are attuned and you feel safe with them.
  2. Sexual and physical friendship. The physical is touching and holding hands. Sexual is how well you’re matched.
  3. Parenting friendship. Kids or pets – are you aligned?
  4. Financial friendship. Are there secrets? Lies? Is there a ‘we’?
  5. Recreational friendship. Do you have fun together, laugh, enjoy each other.
  6. Spiritual friendship. Share a similar mindset and view or support each other’s view.
  7. Domestic friendship. Do you do well as roommates? Does it feel democratic or harmonious?
  8. Community friendship. Part of an organization? Do you volunteer?

How do you diffuse tension in an emotional argument using the love seat listening method? 

It’s the opposite of the hot seat. When couples argue, we need to slow it down and take turns. One person is in the love seat. You listen and they talk. It’s structured and keeps the ego and reactive part of us at bay. Each person feels heard. Reflect back with active listening skills. Conflict is an opportunity to grow.

What is one step someone could take today to create a stronger relationship?

Show appreciation to someone who’s important to you. Pause, breathe, relax and open your heart to the experience of them in your life. 

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Unless it’s really not good for you, allow yourself to embrace the imperfection of the relationship. Look out for where you’re searching for someone to complete you or be perfect. If there’s enough there and you feel you can grow together, normalize that every relationship has imperfections. 

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The Rise in Gray Divorce Among Couples Over 50

There’s a rise in gray divorce, divorce after 50. Why? Tune into this episode with Dr. Dana McNeil to find out! — Why is there a rise in gray divorce? Dr. Dana McNeil, PsyD, LMFT, is a licensed couples therapist and Certified Gottman Therapist specializing in emotional safety, relationship repair, and long-term compatibility. She is […]

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There’s a rise in gray divorce, divorce after 50. Why? Tune into this episode with Dr. Dana McNeil to find out!

Why is there a rise in gray divorce? Dr. Dana McNeil, PsyD, LMFT, is a licensed couples therapist and Certified Gottman Therapist specializing in emotional safety, relationship repair, and long-term compatibility. She is the founder of The Relationship Place and Therapy Getaway, where she provides intensive couples therapy for high-conflict relationships. Dr. McNeil serves on the Advisory Board of MYA and is a national media expert and frequent speaker on modern relationships.

In this episode:

  • Why there’s a rise in gray divorce
  • What erodes in long term marriages that leads to divorce later in life
  • How an empty nest amplifies relational issues
  • The emotional and identity challenges unique to later divorce
  • How to repair a fractured marriage later in life

EP 705: Dr. Dana McNeil – Why Is There a Rise in Gray Divorce Among Couples Over 50?

Highlights of this episode on Gray Divorce

Gray divorce trends & causes

  • Divorce overall down 35% since 2021, but ages 50–64 divorces up 43%.
  • COVID intensified existing relationship stressors by removing external outlets.
  • Common drivers: longer lifespans, financial independence of women, infidelity (20–40% over 50), parenting/“failure to launch,” retirement/financial disagreements, health/sexual changes.
  • Midlife brings identity shifts and grief that impact relationships and willingness to leave.

Relationship breakdown & Gottman framework

  • Gottman’s Four Horsemen that predict relationship failure: defensiveness, criticism, contempt, stonewalling.
  • Repeated presence of those behaviors slowly erodes relationship safety.
  • Repair attempts and bids for connection often get missed or ignored, deepening disconnection.
  • Rebuilding requires renewing friendship, updating “love maps,” shared meaning, and intentional repair work.

Empty nest & adult children co-parenting issues

  • Empty nest can trigger identity, purpose, retirement, and intimacy negotiations.
  • Adult children moving back or being enabled creates new conflict points and can be used as buffers for a dysfunctional marriage.
  • Lack of pre-planned conversations about adult-child expectations can fuel resentments and negative sentiment override.

Dating after divorce — practical guidance

  • Don’t “date potential”: evaluate who a person is now, not who they might become.
  • Prioritize friendship, character, and how someone handles crisis/emotions.
  • Take time after a breakup (often recommended around a year) to grieve and rebuild before serious dating.

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How to Break Barriers in Neurodiverse Relationships

How do you break barriers in neurodiverse relationships? Dr. Matt Zakreski helps neurodivergent people have healthier relationships! — Dr. Matt Zakreski, PsyD, is a professional speaker and clinical psychologist who specializes in working with neurodivergent folks. He has spoken more than 400 times on stages and podcasts about supporting neurodivergent people in all walks of […]

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How do you break barriers in neurodiverse relationships? Dr. Matt Zakreski helps neurodivergent people have healthier relationships!

Dr. Matt Zakreski, PsyD, is a professional speaker and clinical psychologist who specializes in working with neurodivergent folks. He has spoken more than 400 times on stages and podcasts about supporting neurodivergent people in all walks of life. Dr. Matt specializes in taking knowledge of the brain, human behavior, and clinical psychology and making that accessible and practical for people to improve their lives.

In this episode of Last First Date Radio:

  • A crash course in neurodiversity and how it impacts dating
  • How to break barriers in neurodiverse relationships
  • The challenges neurodiverse folks face when dating
  • How to navigate conflict and cultivate closeness
  • How to apply brain science to build stronger relationship

EP 656: Dr. Matt Zakreski – Breaking Barriers in Neurodiverse Relationships

What is neurodiversity?

It’s the word for all brains in the world. Neurodivergent brains function in a different way. One in five people are neurodivergent. 80 percent of people are neurotypical. Diversity means there are a lot of differences out there which make up the world. Being different isn’t a deficit.

How did you get involved in this field?

I spent most of my life hearing about what I couldn’t do as a person with ADHD. I can do some things really well, and other things not so well. I work with people of all brains of all ages. I like the 8-28 range of people. I was a child psychologist, and my kids grew up, so I started helping them, too.

How are relationships challenging for autistic, ADHD, and 2E folks?

We’re learning how to identify the different levels of neurodivergent. You can have ADHD and have tics and stim. For people who are neurodivergent, relationships can be challenging because they have sensory issues. Bars and restaurants can be overly stimulating to them. So, they might ask someone to come to their home, which feels unsafe to the person they’re dating. Sensory issues also come up in the bedroom.

How can neurodivergent people address challenges like sensory overload, emotional dysregulation, and miscommunication?

Flirting is an indirect form of communication. Prosody is how we change the meaning of a word based on the delivery. The neurodivergent brain reads it the same way, especially when there’s a nuance. I train them to look at cues, especially non-verbal. Direct eye contact can be uncomfortable for them. We talk about how much eye contact is necessary for connection. Online, it’s hard to have those skills. The neurodivergent person can ask questions to check if they’re reading the room correctly. Socializing is nuanced and complex. Dating requires courageous conversations, which are hard for many of us. Remember that dating should be fun and enjoyable. That’s the goal!

What are some ways to navigate conflict with a neurodiverse partner?

Neurodiverse people can be rigid around rules and justice. Define what rules are spoken and which are unspoken. Communicate clearly with them and don’t expect them to read your mind. Have honest conversations in a kind way. Send gift lists to them so they don’t have to read your mind. How we frame conflict is important. It’s never me vs you. It’s you and me vs the problem. Reframe the problem as something to be solved. Compromise is inherently productive. Ask yourself what a meaningful compromise would look like. Some things can’t be compromised. This is prosocial communication.

What are some tools and strategies for building emotional and physical connections?

First, no emotion is good or bad. You have a right to be disappointed if someone doesn’t want to be with you. It’s important to learn the language around that. The more aware we are about our emotions, we can be curious, not furious. When you’re curious, you can say,, “Tell me more, help me understand.” That will help you be more empathic and understanding. When you find yourself thinking, “I should be…” change it to “I could be…”.

How can we apply brain science to build stronger relationships and lasting connections and go on our last first date?

The goal of life is not to be happy. Happiness is an emotional state, and every emotional state is fleeting. Chasing happiness makes you less happy. The goal of life is to be regulated. The more regulated your body is, the more likely you’ll be to show up as the best version of you. To go on your last first date, take your date to a place where you feel most regulated and will show up as your best. People fall in love with the most authentic version of you.

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How to Increase Intimacy in Your Everyday Life

You can increase intimacy in all parts of your life. My podcast guests, Celeste and Danielle, will show you how! — Do you want to know how to increase intimacy in your life? Danielle Harel, Ph.D., and Celeste Hirschman, M.A., are co-founders of the Somatica® Institute. They revolutionized intimacy and relationship coaching with their experiential […]

increase intimacy

You can increase intimacy in all parts of your life. My podcast guests, Celeste and Danielle, will show you how!

Do you want to know how to increase intimacy in your life? Danielle Harel, Ph.D., and Celeste Hirschman, M.A., are co-founders of the Somatica® Institute. They revolutionized intimacy and relationship coaching with their experiential Somatica Method. They have trained over 1,000 coaches, authored three books, and inspired countless people to embrace vulnerability and rediscover desire.

In this episode:

  • How to start practicing intimacy in your daily life
  • Why it’s essential to start with non-romantic connections
  • How to step out of your comfort zone and practice intimacy with strangers
  • How couples can create chemistry, even if they don’t feel an immediate connection at first
  • Some of the first steps someone can take to actively generate more chemistry with their partner, even after years together
  • How men can shed their emotional armor and lean into vulnerability with their partners

EP 659: Danielle Harel & Celeste Hirschman – How to Increase Intimacy in Your Everyday Life

How can people start practicing intimacy in their daily lives, and why is it essential to start with non-romantic connections?

Celeste: Intimacy is first with ourselves, even the parts we’re embarrassed about. We need to connect to those parts so we can connect and accept others. We often judge others, and when we bring those pieces together, we can have better relationships with others.

Danielle: People are missing out on intimacy if they’re only thinking of it as a romantic term. Connection with all people builds your band of joy and fullness.

Celeste: There are things we’re ashamed of that won’t change. That’s what I mean by acceptance. Even when we change, things still come up, but we can deal with them in a healthier way.

Danielle: My wound is about intimacy with self, not with others. Intimacy created a way to love my body and connect more intimately with others.

How do you guide people to step out of their comfort zones and practice intimacy with strangers? 

Celeste: When I’m at the bank and ask the teller how they’re doing instead of staring at my phone, that’s intimacy. In our work, we begin with an open hearted stance to create intimacy.

Danielle: We can practice intimacy with every person in our lives. It’s powerful. The stakes are lower, so you can be more open and less defensive.

How do you help couples create chemistry, even if they don’t feel an immediate connection at first?

Danielle: Chemistry is not created with a list. Sitting present with a person and checking with what feels good is important. Are you enjoying the experience? If you’re totally not attracted, don’t keep dating, but if you’re having fun and connecting, that’s great. We can have different types of chemistry with people: intellectual, travel adventures, or sexual chemistry.

Celeste: Don’t try to make a relationship right away and be future focused. Be present and build intimacy in moments.

What are some of the first steps someone can take to actively generate more chemistry with their partner, even after years together?

Celeste: Start with the reality that sex doesn’t happen spontaneously. We don’t always have a conversation about what turns us on and whether it’s compatible. Have the conversations so you can continue to build chemistry.

Danielle: Many couples don’t even know it’s a conversation to have. It can be hard to keep a fire burning after you’ve been together for a while. Pay attention and learn tools to understand what motivates us in sex. Sex becomes a resource and not a chore.

Celeste: For example, if someone touches my face while kissing me, I feel special and turned on.

How do you help men shed their emotional armor and lean into vulnerability with their partners?

Celeste: I love working with men. A man I’m working with feels he has to manage his partner’s emotions and not let her feel fully. Other men don’t know how to express their fears and uncertainty. I help them understand their emotions and learn how to let their partners take care of their own feelings. He gets to feel his response to it.

Danielle: I’ve worked with a lot of women who feel men are supposed to know how to deal with their emotions. There are expectations that men can hold their feelings. It’s more helpful for women to express what’s going on for them and what they need from their partners when they have big emotions.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Celeste: I used to go on dates thinking I was marketing to someone else’s needs. Now, I ask myself if I’m getting what I want and need.

Danielle: Enjoy every moment. Don’t just shoot for the end. Every connection is an opportunity for more intimacy.

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The Hidden Costs of Trauma

What are the hidden costs of trauma? My podcast guest, Dr. Kirsten Harrison, shares the powerful story of a woman who overcame severe trauma. — Dr. Kirsten Viola Harrison is a trauma psychologist, author, and founder of Soul Wise Solutions. For over 35 years, she has guided individuals through profound psychological and spiritual transitions, including […]

hidden costs of trauma

What are the hidden costs of trauma? My podcast guest, Dr. Kirsten Harrison, shares the powerful story of a woman who overcame severe trauma.

Dr. Kirsten Viola Harrison is a trauma psychologist, author, and founder of Soul Wise Solutions. For over 35 years, she has guided individuals through profound psychological and spiritual transitions, including C-PTSD, schizophrenia, and near-death experiences. She is the co-author of “I, Sean/a: The Story of a Homeless Intersex Woman Who Inspired a Community”, the remarkable true story of Sean/a Smith, an intersex woman living with schizophrenia, whose life challenges stigma and who inspires a movement toward dignity, inclusion, and soul-deep healing.

In this episode of Last First Date Radio:

  • The hidden costs of trauma
  • Hope for those who are struggling with any type trauma
  • Great advice for those who are dating after any kind of traumatic relationship

EP 685: Dr. Kirsten Viola Harrison – The Hidden Costs of Trauma

What inspired you to pursue a career in trauma psychology?

I always was interested in trauma and asked my professors to teach more about it. I’m so happy it’s grown and blossomed. Trauma has an effect on everything we do. There are many gifts in overcoming trauma.

For anyone listening who might be struggling with their own trauma, what would you say to offer hope or encouragement? 

Keep track of the micro steps. Appreciate all the little steps. Take what you’re given in childhood, and use it to grow. Rewrite your story. If your worth is tied up in how much you can help someone, this is a trauma response. It illuminates that you can be a helper AND have balance in your life instead of having an energy drain. Traumas rework themselves over time. Shift to making your self-knowledge a priority. What do you want to accomplish in your lifetime? Be more strategic about it.

Your book “I, Sean/a” explores homelessness, intersex identity, schizophrenia, and spirituality. Tell us a little about the story and what you want readers to take away.

My ex-husband was an international tennis pro. We moved to La Jolla and he noticed Sean who hung out at the courts. One day, Sean became Seana with a blonde wig. I sparked a conversation and eventually found out she was homeless. She was outside freezing, and I asked if she had shelter. I had no idea she was unhoused. I checked her into a hotel and contacted the newspaper to have them write about this beloved person. We ran a go fund me, got her off the street, and it became apparent that we needed a next step. I wanted to write her story with her, and she said yes. That turned into a ten year endeavor. 

I want people to understand resilience, post traumatic growth, and what to do when you feel hopeless and don’t belong. Don’t give up. You never know what’s going to happen around the corner. Be unapologetically yourself. Stop worrying about what people think.

What are your final words of advice for anyone who wants to go on their last first date?

Stay open and curious. Expand your field of awareness. We all have something to teach each other. Ask yourself what you need to expand your own journey. See the other person’s wholeness and beauty. It takes some of the pressure away from finding your person. If you follow this path, at some point, you’ll meet the right person.

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